Islam is a wonderful religion, and one that I deeply respect, but I feel that way about every religion. Do I have anything against Islam? Nope. Actually, I've spent a significant amount of my time studying Islam, and I probably know more than most people, other than the experts, PhDs, and Muslims themselves. I value many of the same teachings that Muslims adhere to, and many of the same religious figures.

Do I have anything against Muslims? Nope. In fact, several of my friends, both in real life and virtual, as on Gather, are Muslim. Actually, about half of my friends are Atheist, a few Agnostic, a few Muslim, a few Hindu, one or two Buddhist, a few Christian/Catholic, several Jewish, and the rest something else or not sure. I don't judge people on their religion. I believe we are all free to believe what we want.

I'm sure you're all familiar with those "Christians" who go around preaching to people telling them if they don't follow ONE SINGLE WAY they're headed straight for hell, and they do this to their friends, family, colleagues, and strangers too. I'm sure your also familiar with those who do the same thing, but upon invitation, those who preach if given the opportunity. I'm not one of those people. I never preach to people's faces, never say I'm RIGHT and you're WRONG, because that's wrong too.

You can argue all you want and offer all the evidence you want, but unless someone decides in their heart they'll listen to you, you'll get nowhere. Maybe a nod and a polite smile if you're lucky, or a curse or blow if not. I'm a firm believer in the writer's saying Show don't tell. That applies to life too. If you show by your lifestyle that you're a happy blessed person and you feel truly at peace, that peaceful, blissful feeling is contagious and soon people will be asking you about it.

Does this mean I support terrorists or terrorism? No. In fact, I do not believe in many of the ideas that support terrorism. But I respect and love those who are members and support it, because we're all people, and we're all equal in God's eyes. (Allah, Yahweh, etc.) I understand the basis for it, and I learn as much as I can about terrorism, because no one wants to argue with someone who doesn't know where they're coming from. No one can reason effectively without understanding all the other sides to the question and where they stand, but most importantly, WHY they take that position.

I seek to understand the people in this world. I try my hardest to learn about other cultures, other political ideologies, other languages, other clothing traditions, other culinary traditions, and other religions. I try my hardest not to judge people, but we all do, and when I find myself judging someone, I stop the thought. Yup, I slip up, all the time too, and sometimes when I slip up, it means the end of a healthy relationship, or the end of a long friendship, or the end of something before it ever started. But I can't let it hang over the rest of my life.

Other people come down on me all the time for who I am. I am a non-conformist. I do not yield to popular opinion because Bush or Oprah told me to do so. I do not automatically side with the oppressed minority, or the popular majority. I don't take sides at all. But neither do I sit on the sidelines. I am a very opinionated person, and I'm willing to accept that my beliefs might be wrong. I believe God alone knows truth (Al'h Haqq) because He is absolute truth, and that I have only a glimpse of it. So yeah, I might be wrong. I'm admitting it right now. Most people won't, or they'll avoid the question. But I said it outright.

And lastly, for Islamophobia. I believe strongly that this is a wrong practice that needs to stop. Just like with every other cultural, racial, religious, political, or national group, it's only a small minority of people who claim to be adherents to it that distort the image of it for everyone else involved. I applaud member Mary J., found at http://marijoseph.gather.com who has tried to allow people to understand her Islamic beliefs and culture. And I condemn the actions of those (note I'm not condemning the people, but their actions) who have decided to bash her, insult her, and her people and religion. That's wrong. We all deserve respect, and that's what I'm about. I'm about love.

I love my Muslim brothers and sisters. I love my Jewish, Sikh, Ba'Hai, Jain, Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, Wiccan, Atheist, Christian/Catholic, Agnostic, Scientologist, and Taoist brothers and sisters. And I don't judge you for your beliefs; I applaud you for the courage to share them in a world where anyone and everyone by doing so immediately opens themself up to the harshest criticism.

I am a seeker. I seek Truth (Al'h Haqq). And I seek Love. I seek to give love, and to receive it from those of like mind. Not necessarily of like religion or political beliefs. Like mind.

Author: Ylanne S.

Almost five years into the Iraq war and seven years into the conflict in Afghanistan and the Islamophobia is still turned up to full volume. But thoughout those years of conflict and senseless killing few of us seem to have learned anything about Islam and what we owe to the Muslim world.

It is wrong to brand all Muslims as terrorists or to accuse Muslims of wanting to see every American dead although I see such opinions expressed here and elsewhere every day. There are as many flavours of Islam as there are of Christianity, some are as repugnant as the most extreme forms of Christian fundamentalism, some are as dedicated to promoting peace and understanding as are the Quakers and Unitarians.

Mistrust of Islam existed before 9/11 of course but since then it has grown out of all proportion to any potential threat. Instead of blaming Islam for all the ills of the world though, we who enjoy the benefits of western civilisation should thank Islam for ….erm, well, … the benefits of western civilisation. While it is true to say that without Islam the WTC would not have been wrecked we must primarily understand that without Islam the WTC could never have been built.

I have said many provocative things before now about the unreliable foundations of Christianity but my only regret is that I have not gone far enough. The true history of the middle east before the conquest by Alexander is convoluted and complicated but the role of "the Jews" and later Christianity as a civilising influence is totally mythical. Christianity can truly be said to be the worship of ignorance and stupidity. People need to be aware that the adoption of Christianity by the Emperor Constantine the Great heralded the dark ages.

Though Constantine was a cunning and effective political operator who sought advice from the traditional sources, his successors, in order to keep the Christians onside and so stay in power, had to accept Christian leaders and Bishops as advisors and appoint their nominees to governorships and stewardships in the important provinces. These people were intent only on promoting the interests of their religion as a means to increasing their own wealth and power.

Seventy years after Constantine's adoption and subsequent reinvention of Christianity the political structure of the Empire had weakened so that it was effectively a Theocracy. It was the early Christian church (practising a form of Christianity that would not be recognisable today) that ordered the greatest act of cultural vandalism ever perpetrated when Bishop Theophilius ordered the burning of the Great Library of Alexandria and the destruction of all Wisdom that did not come from God," (in other words anything the Bishops had reason to fear.

For almost a thousand years ignorance ruled what was referred to as Christendom. All art music and literature could only be in praise of God, practice of the mathematics, sciences and healing arts developed by the Greeks, Phoenicians, Assyrians, Persians and Egyptians was forbidden to secular Christians and only the study of Christian subjects was encouraged.

Ironically some of the knowledge the secular church led by the Vatican was trying to destroy was kept alive in the monasteries. Monastic orders also preserved historic documents that give us some insight into the true mythical origins of Jesus rather than the lurid fantasies of the modern churches. The Monasteries also maintained contact with Zoroastrian and Islamic and other non – Christian scholars in Egypt, Assyria and the east. The knowledge of architecture, mathematics, sciences, astronomy and medicine were thus kept alive.

Much was lost, that phenomenon of the astral bodies, the precession of the equinoxes, known to the Druids in northern and western Europe as well as to the Pyramid builders of Egypt and Mesopotamia was only rediscovered in the nineteen – fifties. This may not seem important but it is essential to understanding the changing of seasons and the coming and going of ice ages. The secret of how the Pyramids were built is still lost however, theories about the building of ramps and moving huge stones on rollers are just unfeasible and even the most powerful cranes we have today could not handle the reach involved when loaded with such massive weights.

Christians did not care about such things though, their obsession with God convinced them that they should just carry on building churches by piling stones on top of each other until the weight of the higher structures caused the lower levels to collapse outwards. Christian churches then were lumpish and ugly buildings far removed from the graceful and elegant temples of the Greeks/ Romans, Egyptians, Assyrians and Persians.

All that began to change when the Moors invaded and conquered Spain in 711AD. There were many places of pilgrimage in Spain, and good reasons for pilgrims to go there, after all it was where Jesus and his wife Mary Magdalene had fled to escape the persecution of the Pharisee (Medieval Christians really did believe that, and there is a stack of evidence to support their beliefs) There was also the cult of James, alleged brother of Jesus. So the Christians were pissed off by Moorish rule but even more pissed off when the Moors started to build magnificent temples to Allah and palaces such as the Alhambra.

"Look at how they honour their God and their Kings," travellers said, "can it be their God is greater than ours if he grants them the knowledge to achieve such feats of craftsmanship?"

Initially the Catholic Church had such heretics executed but after a while the hierarchy caught on to the idea that something was going on. "Anything their God can do, our God can do better," the Pope and his Bishops sang in unison as they set about building the kind of magnificent structures the Moors and Arabs were putting up. Without success, unless you count collapsed buildings and loss of labourers lives a success.

The Monastic orders were a bit more cunning though. "Could it be these guys know something we don't?" they asked, "and if so how much will it cost to have them tech us?"

There is a bone of contention about which is the oldest of the Great European Gothic Cathedrals, Durham in Britain or Chartres in France. Durham was actually started first but due to a little local difficulty in England in 1066AD Chartres was completed first (both still stand today but have been extensively rebuilt.) It is possible in either to see the evidence that Muslim architects and builders were involved. Serious scholars can arrange to be taken high into the roof structures where they can observe Islamic symbols carved in the stones along with signatures of the men who carved them, as if the Muslims were saying "well OK, its to the glory of the Christian God but look who built it.

It was contact with the Moors in Spain and the Arabs during the crusades that led to the renaissance. Development in the western world had stood still or in some fields gone backwards since Christianity had become dominant but now important travellers, not just monks, merchants and adventurers but noblemen and Kings were saying "Duh, we got it wrong."

Gradually learning and creativity became acceptable again. The church resisted of course, viz. the persecution of Copernicus, Galileo and others. But we were able to learn some of what the Greeks and Egyptians had known and to build on it. So any time you come across Islamophobia just think that yes, it was deranged, fanatical Muslims that flew those 'planes into the World Trade Centre, but without Islam not only would there have been no world trade centre and no 'planes to fly into it (try building a plane without reference to Pythagorean mathematics) but no U.S.A. to get all stupidly patriotic about because the church would not have sanctioned expeditions to prove the world was round had it not been forced to.

I can't get away from the impression that Christian Fundamentalism will try its damndest to drag us back into the dark ages if we allow it to do so. For that reason I will close with these words from the prologue to Christopher Marlowe's play "The Jew of Malta"

"I count religion but a childish toy,
and hold there is no sin but ignorance."

You can read the comments below and see plenty of Christian idiots calling me a liar. Or you can read this article on Islamic Science by Prof. Jim Al Kahlili, an atheist of muslim / christian parents and a leading theoretical physicist who backs up what I have said in another FACTUAL article on the same topic.

Author: Ian Thorpe

What is great?  Did he also call Christianity and Buddhism great?  No?  Why not?  Is he not the president of all the people?

His Green czar calls Republicans a**holes.  Nice, Mr. President. So much for bipartisanship.  While you kiss up to Islam, you allow slamming of your own people.

What next?  A national civilian army?  Yes, and your poll numbers are tanking, and you wonder why?

Now, you are telling schools to teach Obama propaganda to our children.  How big, wide, and deeply pathetic is your ego? 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/01/obama-calls-islam-great-religion-ramadan-dinner/?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r4:c0.033129:b27480748:z0

Fox news reports that “‘Obama has made a special effort since taking office to repair U.S. relations with the world’s Muslims, including visits to Turkey and Cairo. In a June speech at the Egyptian capital, as well as in one to another important Muslim audience, in Turkey, Obama said: “America is not — and never will be — at war with Islam.’”

Well, Mr. President, America is not at war with Islam, but Islam is at war with us.  They are sawing off our heads, and swear our death as a sacred oath, but you go call their religion great and watch the polls continue to plummet.

Author: *Carol ~Bronx Southern Belle D.

Is this mostly a factor of what happens when a society has more people than it has productive jobs for?

Are there real issues here?  Do we need to really care that some people are easily offended?  Well, should there be reprecussions against the muslims who attack christian churches?  Should these people be be hospitalized for mental instability?  Should these people be shot?  Who should be responsible for bringing these violent people to justice?

Author: Marty S.

In 711, it roared in, to Spain, to stay for five centuries. It left a rich legacy of learning – and a deep European allergy to the "other."

Now, in a new book, Pulitzer Prize-winning historian David Levering Lewis says the West might have been better off if Islam had conquered all of Europe.

Then and now, those sound like fighting words and take some explaining.

Listen to an On Point conversation with Lewis about when Islam came to Europe, and why it matters now.

Is this a different story from what you learned in World History class?  Are you open to a different view of how things might have been or not?

Author: On Point Webmaster

Author: Marilyn M.

http://www.jewishmediaresources.com/1513/islamophobia-as-an-offensive-weapon

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is calling for the dismissal of New York City Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly and the appointment of an outside inspector-general to run the police. CAIR and other “mainstream” Muslim groups have a long-standing grievance with Kelly and the NYPD arising out of a 2007 NYPD Intelligence Report entitled, “Radicalization in the West: the Homegrown Threat,” and the NYPD’s ongoing surveillance of radical Islamic groups, including mosques.

But the immediate club being used to hammer Kelly is his participation in a documentary entitled The Third Jihad. The New York Times has devoted numerous news stories and two editorials so far to The Third Jihad, which is described as “a dark film on U.S. Muslims” and “anti-Islam,” whose producers, The Times implies, seek to advance a pro-Israel agenda.

The Times coverage failed to mention the long roster of authorities interviewed for the film, including the Director of the CIA under President Clinton, James Woolsey, and the first Secretary of Homeland Security Gov. Tom Ridge, and a host of former U.S. government intelligence officials. The title The Third Jihad was provided by the most eminent living historian of Islam, Professor Bernard Lewis.

I wrote a long feature article on The Third Jihad when it first appeared two years ago and interviewed the producer Raphael Shore and narrator Dr. Zuhdi Jasser at length. So I have taken more than a passing in interest in the controversy. Far from being an attack on Islam, the opening lines of the film state clearly: “This is not a film about Islam. It is about the threat of radical Islam. Only a small percentage of the world’s 1.3 billion Muslims are radical.” Dr. Jasser, a devout Muslim of Syrian descent and former U.S. Navy Lieutenant Commander, is the founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy. He distinguishes between Islam as a private faith and Islam as a political doctrine mandating the imposition of Sharia law world-wide.

So far Kelly and his boss N.Y. Mayor Michael Bloomberg have tried to get past the immediate controversy through now familiar public penance rituals expressing “regrets.” It has been left to others, most notably Woolsey and Ridge, to make the substantive case for the NYPD’s anti-terrorist policies. In an op-ed in the New York Daily News (rejected by The Times),the two argue that the NYPD’s undercover terror prevention program, including intelligence gathering within the Muslim community, has been one of the prime tools allowing the NYPD to foil several credible threats arising from within the community. And given that even one successful terror attack in New York City could claims tens of thousands of lives, the NYPD cannot afford to decrease its intelligence gathering activities.

THE TIMES OMITTED ANY discussion of the thesis of The Third Jihad. Dr. Jasser holds up a fifteen-page document, at the beginning of the film, which we eventually learn is a Moslem Brotherhood manifesto for “eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within,” using front groups, mosques, and Islamic centers to achieve that goal. The document in question was uncovered by the FBI in the course of its investigation leading up to the government’s successful prosecution of the Holy Land Foundation terrorist funding case.

Terrorism, intones Jasser, is only one tactic towards the Islamist’s goal of imposing Sharia across the globe – a goal is shared by many groups who are not themselves involved in terrorist activity. CAIR, which is specifically mentioned in the document, is one such group. CAIR was listed as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation case, and the FBI broke off all relations with the group at the time.

Abdul Rahman Alamoudi, the founder of the American Muslim Council, who was invited to speak at an ecumenical service in the National Cathedral after 9/11, is another “moderate” Muslim. He is shown in The Third Jihad boasting, “Either we do it now or we do it in a hundred years, but this country will become a Muslim country.”

The current controversy could itself be a chapter in The Third Jihad,which discusses the manner in which Islamist front groups constantly raise the specter of Islamophobia to suppress discussion of radical Islam. And it works. Paul Berman writes in The Flight of the Intellectuals of how Western intellectuals have been induced to remain silent on such awkward matters as the historical link between the Moslem Brotherhood and the Nazis, and the Nazi inspiration for present day Islamists.

Concern for Muslim sensitivities prevents government officials from acknowledging the obvious. After uncovering a plot to blow up the Canadian parliament and behead the prime minister, a police spokesman described the plotters as being drawn from a wide cross-section of society, while neglecting to mention that all were Muslim. Similarly, Muslims plotting to blow up ten commercial aircraft over the Atlantic were described only as English nationals of southeastern Asian descent.

Political correctness skews analysis. Dr. Walid Phares, formerly of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, laments in The Third Jihad that policymakers treat every issue as discrete, while failing to connect the dots. President Obama’s anti-terrorism advisor John Brennan, for instance, rejects any discussion of worldwide jihad. He speaks only of the battle against Al Qaeda and its affiliates, while failing to recognize that Al Qaeda is but one of many Moslem Brotherhood offshoots sharing an ideology, not a single command structure. The 2010 National Security document pointedly omits any reference to radical Islam, and speaks instead only of “violent extremists.”

The 80-page government report on the Fort Hood massacre laughably made no mention of the religious beliefs of Dr. Nidal Malik Hassan’s, who murdered 13 while shouting “Alla-hu Akhbar.” It concluded that “religious fundamentalism alone is not a risk factor.” In congressional testimony, Attorney General Eric Holder repeatedly refused to acknowledge any connection between the Islamic religious beliefs of the Ft. Hood assassin, the Times Square Bomber, and the x-mas airplane bomber.

THE THIRD JIHAD DETAILS numerous ways in which America is being softened up for Islamic advance. In his interview, Kelly states that 18% of the prisoners in the New York State prison system convert to Islam while in prison. Prison chaplains receive little screening. One former Muslim chaplain is filmed telling prisoners, “Brothers, be prepared to die, be prepared to kill. [T]his is history, this is the Koran, nobody can deny it. . . . Read it in . . . the Koran . . . . When you fight, you strike terror into the heart of the disbeliever.”

At least 30 compounds associated with Jamaat ul Fuqra, a radical Pakistani organization, and mostly populated by prison converts to Islam, dot the American landscape. In a video, obviously not made for public consumption, we watch practice in ambush tactics and bomb-making in one such compound.

Perhaps most chilling is the penetration of the American educational system, from the top down. The Saudis have provided $20 million a piece to Georgetown University and Harvard. Many of the Saudi gifts to prestigious universities are styled as promoting Islamic-Christian understanding, which is ironic given that churches are banned in Saudi Arabia, and even the possession of a Christian bible forbidden. Saudi money funds many American mosques. According to a 2005 report of the Center for Religious Freedom, “Wahhabism [an extreme form of Islamic fundamentalism and the official religion of Saudi Arabia] is dominant in many American mosques.” Much of the official Saudi-supplied literature could be considered hate speech. A Saudi-sponsored Islamic academy in Virginia, for instance, used textbooks that promote violence against “Christians, Shiite Muslims, and Jews.”

Even more frightening is what is happening in American schools. Daniel Pipes told me three years ago, “Among [the Islamists' techniques] is manipulation of textbooks at both the high school and college level. They play on the politically correct impulse to say nothing negative about non-Western cultures to achieve an air-brushed picture of Islam.” Last October, Tony Pagliuso, a parent in upscale Newton, Massachusetts, complained that the following statement in a text called The Arab World Notebook was pure propaganda: “Over the past four decades, women have been active in the Palestinian resistance movement. Several hundred have been imprisoned, tortured and killed by Israeli occupation forces since the latest uprising, ‘intifada,’ in the Israeli occupied territories.”

The school principal replied to Pagliuso’s complaint, “Next year we are planning to teach material that will be even more inflammatory to your sensibilities.” And the classroom teacher noted proudly the Notebook had been supplied by the Outreach Workshop of the Center for Middle Eastern Studies at Harvard. The Outreach Center, which is recognized as a National Resource Center by the U.S. Department of Education, trains high school teachers on Middle East issues and provides free materials. Both the Center and the Outreach Program are heavily funded by the Saudis. The Outreach Program is headed by Paul Beran, a prominent supporter of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions Movement against Israel.

Among other whoppers in the Notebook being used in Newton was this one: “There is no basis in Islam for the subjugation of women or their relegation to a secondary role.” Textbooks dealing with Islam regularly cite Islamic doctrine as if it were factual, and omit such qualifiers as, “Muslims believe.” Schools bend over backwards to show Islam in a favorable light, often spending two weeks of units of world religions on Islam, and a day each on Christianity and Judaism.

Author: Jacob S.

Then, many years later after 9/11, I was curious enough to seek out Muslim women to learn more.  I understood how the Muslim faith was pushed upon men and women in prison, but I was interested in finding out how American women who had been born and raised in Christian homes became Muslim.  And in one of the online groups where Christian and Muslim women shared correspondence on a daily basis for about 18 months after 9/11, there were quite a few who fit that description.

Of course I didn’t take the word of these women as the “truth” about Islam any more than I would take the word of any newspaper today about what is true.  I went to the library and studied and I found page after page on the internet – some that promoted the Muslim faith and some that abhorred it.  And the more I read, the more confused I got about how anyone who grew up with freedom – particularly for women – would want to be a part of religion that suppresses the rights of women.  Or a religion that is known for violence.

One of the things about which I was curious was why more supposed “moderate Muslims” had never come forward publicly to renounce the terrorists and violence.  As it was explained to me, they could not do that for their own safety.  And, as it was also explained to me, even the “moderate Muslims” know for a fact that one day the world will be entirely Muslim.  They know that all will be converted or killed by fundamentalist/extremist Muslims, and although they would not perpetrate such violence themselves, they have accepted that it will happen.  One woman told me that to save everyone, we should just all agree to convert now and quickly.  Wow.  (Who wants to be a part of this kind of political movement that pretends to be a religion?)

I continue to read today, preferring not to listen to the “talking heads” on lamestream newsertainment shows, or a president who quotes the Koran on a regular basis and calls the words “beautiful” and who somehow believes that there were Muslims here in American with the founding fathers.  (I guess that’s what happens when you have a president whose early education was in Muslim schools.)

Anyway…yesterday I came across this article.

Understand Who Our Enemies Are

And make no bones about it.  They are our enemies.

And Clifford D. May, Jack Kemp, Jeane Kirkpatrick and a small group of concerned philanthropists were discussing and learning about terrorists even before 9/11.

Here’s some of what the article said:

Among the most significant lesson I’ve learned since then: Terrorism is not the core problem. It is merely the weapon of choice for some of the regimes, movements and ideologies that are waging a war against the U.S. and other democratic societies.

The terrorists regard themselves as “jihadis” — heroic Islamic warriors and conquerors. They see their enemies as “infidels” — enemies of Allah. Yes, the jihadis and those who support them have grievances against America, Europe and Israel. But resolving policy differences is not their goal. Their goal is to defeat the West, and to restore to Muslims the power and glory they enjoyed in the past and which, they are confident, they are destined to enjoy again in the future.

Not all those who seek this restoration engage in acts of terrorism or even support them. There are those — call them “Islamists” — who are not militants. They believe non-violent strategies can more effectively hasten the transition from the rule of law as constructed by men to the rule of law as ordained by Allah, along with the transfer of global dominance from Judeo-Christian societies to “the Muslim world.”

It should go without saying: Most of the world’s Muslims are not participating in this struggle, are not eager for bloodshed and do not want to live under clerical dictatorships.

But if, as has been conservatively estimated, only seven percent of the world’s Muslims support Jihadism and/or Islamism, that’s more than 80 million people — a formidable force backed by enormous Middle Eastern oil wealth. By contrast, Islamic reformers and peacemakers are isolated, targeted and without substantial resources.

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Even if only 7% of of Muslims support Jihadism, that’s more than 80 million people.

Remember when people danced in the streets after 9/11?  I know that here in America we have a terrible time estimating crowds.  But what we saw was definitely more than “tens of thousands.”  There were also more than “tens of thousands” threatening violence against us all because one preacher said that his 50 member congregation was going to burn the Koran.

We have to stay informed and know our enemies.

Author: Marilyn M.

http://www.islamworld.net/xmas.html

I'm not sure if all of the contradictions are due to the translation from Arabic to English or if they are simply accepted by the followers. If you dont want to go to the site I will post just a few of the blatent contradictions I found.

Though Muslims claim to worsip one God, the statements below seem to discredit that notion. (emphasis added by me) Note the useage of WE andOUR.

  The true story of Jesus' birth from Mary is told in the Holy
Quran. We are told that he was born without a father by the
command of God. Mary was single and a chaste woman.

21:91   And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We(we who?) breathed
into her of Our  Spirit, and We made her and her son a Sign for
all peoples.
19:16   Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew
from her family to a place in the East.
19:17   She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them: then
We sent to her Our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in
all respects.

The Angel Gabriel, according to the Quran, says to Mary

19:21   He said: "So (it will be): thy Lord saith, `That is easy
for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a
Mercy from Us': it is a matter (so) decreed."

The Quran also claims that Jesus spoke as a baby, and talked to Her people, saying,

19:33   "So Peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I
die, and the Day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"!(is that the resurection that it is referring to?)

Yet, after saying that Jesus was born of a virgin, and that God was the one who "commanded" that it be so/impregnated Her. But then says God wouldnt lower himself to do anysuch thing.

19:35   It is not befitting to (the majesty of) God that He
should beget a son….

Just a few observations on the matter. Please visit the site, and comment if you have anything you'd like to add, or dispute.

God Bless

Author: Josh J.

Author: Juan J Martinez